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Ryan Groves
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Topic: KICK AND BASS IN KEY???Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 11:35am |
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Hey guys im still learning obviously but whats the best technique to check that my kick and bass are sitting in harmony with each other?? i mean they sound fine in the project im working on through my own ears but i'd just like to know how much of a difference this would make if i could get them both sitting together this way for future reference!! im a Logic Pro user by the way, thanks in advance for any reply!! |
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RobJones
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Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 11:59am |
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Hey Ryan,
The best way to hear whether your kick has an obvious key is to change it's pitch, so transpose it up or down. Then, you'll hear any resonances or deep bass tones shift up and down. If you listen to the bassline whilst doing this, perhaps transposing the bassline up an octave temporarily so it's not masking the tones in the kick, or using a higher frequency synth part in your track if you have one instead of the bassline, then you'll be able to hear the tuning of each part and make sure they're harmonious. Some kicks have much more of a sense of key, with a longer sustained tone or distinctive resonance, whereas other kicks can consist more of a wider band of frequencies all hitting at the same time. If you look on a spectral analyser (the Spectrum insert or turn on the analyser on the Channel EQ) whilst mixing your kick and bassline, it may help to provide more clarity about what's going on in the mix..... Although, you'll want to make sure the kick isn't clashing with the bassline by pitch adjusting, you can also do a lot with EQ alone, reducing any unwanted peaks and making sure the kick and bassline work well together - some people find this much easier to adjust by sight than by ear (using a spectrum analyser), especially as the lower frequencies are harder to hear. r |
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morganlefaye
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Posted: 17 Jan 2013 at 6:26pm |
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yeah this is what i do too.... i think it is good practice to have these in key
(if you play a for Eg. kick in flat note in a Cmajor scale... it will sound okay on most systems... but on a club system it would sound bloody awful) i too knock everything up an octave just to hear it better matching my kick i use an FFT and tune the kick to either the fundamental peak of the bass ... on 1 of the harmonic series or basically in key which sounds nice... generally first impressions as rob said... EQ is good at this point ... i carve out some of the bass around the transient & body of the kick |
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